Been using it for over a year. Absolutely love it. It’s just so damn expensive! But it makes you the money
The Q230 is a very versatile wax and is a perfect option for natural soy wax pillars, votives, tarts and containers. Candles easily unmold and have a beautiful semi-gloss finish.
The new EcoSoya Quantum soy waxes feature new technology that virtually eliminates frosting, allows for higher fragrance loads, higher pour temperatures and produces vivid colors.
The wax can be used in containers when lower pour temperatures are used, however wet spots are inevitable. We suggest only using with tins or containers with a solid color if this is a concern for your candle line.
Ideal fragrance loads vary from 6 - 18% depending on application.
Votives and pillars: 9% or less
Wax melts: up to 18%
Been using it for over a year. Absolutely love it. It’s just so damn expensive! But it makes you the money
I unfortunately have nothing good to say about this wax. I was so upset when they discontinued PB but I had to order something as my customers had been waiting for pillars to come back. This wax was a total waste of money. Like previously mentioned by other customers, It leaks out the bottom of my molds, smells horrible, will not release from molds without going in the freezer which usually results in cracking, and they are oily to the touch once you actually get them out. I am so happy to see they relaunched PB.
Love it! Makes a good tart! Melts well no issues
I had bought this wax to used just for my wax melts and clamshells. I am I did, the colors turn out very vibrant using liquid dye. So I decided to try some candles in containers. The results were better than what I had expected. I followed the poor guide lines on what is recommended for this wax. I have to say, I was very shocked at the results. I will be ordering more of this wax for sure. With all the negative reviews out there on this wax I have found thru all my search that you really have to watch your ambient room temperature and pour from there. I received no wet spots in my containers, and the tops were very smooth, with and without color. I found at 10% FO worked best, using ECO wicks and HTP work great for me. Patients is the key. Yes, there is a vinegar smell during your melting process, but not in your final product. Give it a try...
This wax is perfect for tarts and tins, just follow the instructions CS gives you and you'll be fine
I love this wax, use it for everything but my glass jars. The secret it to pour it at the recommended temp.
I am so confused as to how EcoSoya could have felt confident in releasing this product onto the market...especially as a supposedly IMPROVED version of the old stuff (which I miss so much). I do like how this wax comes in pastille form, but that's about the only positive feedback I have. It is a noticeably softer wax (which is terrible for pillars), it takes much longer to unmold without causing damage and I've had many instances of scarring and craters in my pillars (which was never a problem with the old PB). The scent throw is not as good as the old formulation, both hot and cold. The scent is much more subtle and faded. All of these complaints I've read on other reviews as well. The one that I haven't seen, and one that is the biggest frustration for me, is that since I've started using this wax, my pillars ALWAYS leak. I don't know why, but I have literally never once had leakage...until this new wax. I have tried everything to plug up the wick hole better, but no amount of putty, tape, plug or plastic wrap seems to do it. And again, this was never even close to being a problem until I was forced to switch to this inferior yet much more expensive wax :-(. I am very disappointed and upset. I really hope these reviews make it back to the EcoSoya team for some serious reconsideration of this new product. I LOVED the old PB. If it ain't broke, why fix it?
We shipped in 2 cases of Q230 when our regular supplier was out of stock. With a 21% increase and sellers on Amazon and our company website, wax was a complete bummer. The good news is PB soya blend is scheduled to be released shortly. Hopefully we can get our customers back. Candle Science is an awesome company.
After being completely blindsided by the need to discontinue/re-formulate the original Pillar Blend, and waiting so long for this replacement, I too am a bit disappointed. Overall, it works fine. Not great. It wicks exactly the same as the old PB, as far as all my testing has shown. It is certainly not as hard as original PB, and does burn a bit faster. The vinegar smell is overwhelming for sure, but not present in my finished candles/tarts- a longer cure time and a heavier scent load are absolutely necessary. Hot and cold throw are not anywhere near as incredible as before, but still good. I use between 1 1/4 oz and 1 1/2 oz in each pound. I have had no problems removing it from votive molds or silicone tart molds, but you have to wait 24 hours for them to come out cleanly. I saw a reviewer below say that a pillar had some scaring after removal from a pillar mold, and I wanted to just mention- I ALWAYS use Mold Release in the metal pillar molds. You can order it right on this site. Spray a light layer into pillar/votive molds before pouring, it works wonders, and you don't have to put them in the freezer, which causes cracking. Anyway... I am still mourning the loss of PB, and nothing will ever replace it. This one is ok, but not in any way as amazing as it's predecessor. Can we just have the old one back? Ugh.
Oh, and I use LX 20 in the 2 oz tins, I use LX 16 in votives, and I DOUBLE WICK my larger tumblers (3 inch diameter) with two LX 22. For tin cup tealights I use LX 14- I know these all may sound quite large in gauge, but for this wax and the required scent load, it all works perfectly. (this was all the same wicking I previously used for PB)
I've made wax melts with this wax and was pleased with the outcome.
When used with CandleScience's FO's, the cold and hot throw was very nice. I ended up using 9% FO added at 175 degrees, and poured at 170.
I will continue to use this wax for my wax melts.
I have never been so completely disappointed after waiting 8 months for the new wax it is full of issues. My whole business was built around high end soy pillars and votives made with the PBeco soya. I do not do tarts. I use another type soy for my jar candles. So this review is strictly for pillar/votives. After a grueling 8 month wait with much excitement I got test cases right before busy season. Definitely not the time of year I needed a learning curve after 5 years of perfection with the old wax. All I can say is it is filled with Issues! First the stink of the wax is beyond pleasant. I found I had to add much more fragrance to get any throw at all, even after waiting 3 weeks cure time. The wax is slimy, and just feels nasty compared to the old PB blend. Getting the candles out of the molds is a nightmare. I found I had to wait a good 24 hours, roll them, push on them and fight them out of the molds. My production does not allow time to chill them in a freezer (which I tried doing and as they were unmolding the edges kept cracking off). NOPE- this is horrible stuff. I hate to think of moving to paraffin. My clients don't want paraffin, they want 100 percent soy. So a para-soy blend is out. Ive tried other soy waxs and nothing compares to the old PB blend. Melt point, cool point is critical with this wax. mixing is also tedious. I find it requires much more mix time to get a full incorporation of fragrance oil into the wax. Pour temp also is important so it does not make weird patterns and speck marks or air bubbles. I wish that Eco-soya would listen to us all and just bring back the old PB wax it was so easy and versatile.
I was waiting so long for this wax so I can make my tarts to sell this fall at the local festivals and I just threw all my money away because there is very little scent throw after curing 2 weeks, I want to cry after spending all that money on my order of this wax with all the fragrance oils. I can't sell these, what a waist I wish I could get my money back.
I LOVED the old pillar blend because it had so many uses, this one is a big fat nope from me thus far. I tested 3" pillars and votives in a few different fo %'s and noticed no difference in the throws at all and this is with fo's I know perform well. I had to leave them in the freezer for an hour or so before they would come out of the molds and even then some spots stuck like glue and chipped off making it look like garbage. The wax itself absolutely reeks of vinegar and rancid'ness and I mean a HORRIBLE smell and my whole case was one giant lump that I had to break apart with a gardening trowel. Kind of upset that it's even more pricy than the old pillar blend and not even close to the same quality. I'll keep experimenting with it but I'm not hopeful.
This wax makes the most beautiful tarts! It leaves a glass like finish! Hot and cold throw is spectacular. I’m excited to branch out into pillars now!
After 1 week of curing, we have seen no improvement to the cold throw in our melts, candles or tealights. We also still smell the vinegar smell in the final product (with the entire quantum line). Maybe we will try again in 6 months or a year once NGI has fixed the formula, but we won't be re-ordering until we hear the formula has been changed. We also think an 18% FO load to cover the vinegar scent and to get any sort of cold throw is unrealistic, especially when this wax is more expensive than others. We also experiences greasy melts that were difficult to remove from molds. We simply haven't been able to work with this wax to get a product we believe in enough to sell. The only pro is everything look nice, but we would rather deal with some visual flaws and have a product that blows people away with it's performance.
I waited for so long to get the new formula that EcoSoya was producing. I contemplated testing other waxes for my wax melts and molded snowmen I sell but determined I'd wait. I'm very unhappy with how the product turned out. The wax released from the molds however there was a crater in the snowman and both melts and snowman were extremely greasy. I never had an issue with the previous pillar blend, that is why i used it for almost 10 years. I'm upset that my overhead will increase to test out new waxes.
I, like many others, have been waiting a long time to see what Ecosoya was going to replace the PB wax with. In fact, I waited so long I had to go in search of a replacement before this new wax was released. The replacement I found is a wonderful soy pillar, mold and tart wax, but hard to find a good wick for, so I was still waiting with high hopes for this new wax to be released. I finally received my 10 lb tester bag of this q230 wax a few days ago and sadly it is a disappointment. Upon the very first touch of the pellets in the bag I could tell this wax was too soft, it almost felt like it was melting in my hands, only slightly firmer than container wax. But I thought I would test it anyway. I poured 3 testers, 1 tart (flower shape), 1 Silicone candle mold shape (standard, no fine details), and one in a metal pillar mold that is sold by Candlescience. While I was waiting, what seemed like an unusually long time for these to cool, I was messing around with the pellets and noticed that it took next to no pressure at all for me to squish them to mush between my fingers. Compared to the other wax I am currently using and the old PB wax, this stuff just doesn't hold up. I couldn't do that to my current replacement wax if I wanted to. I am very concerned about even trying to ship anything made with this wax for fear of it being easily scuffed and damaged. Once the molds had cooled overnight, I had to put the flower tart in the freezer to get it to release, the silicone mold came out, but not without some scuffs and the pillar mold released with a fair amount of tapping on the worktable, but left some scars on the top of the candle where it was still trying to hold onto the mold. All of the items feel very soft and there's no way I would trust shipping them, packaging alone would leave marks. Unless the wax I received was somehow a mistake, there is no way I would recommend this wax as pillar wax.
I love this wax! it popped out of the clamshell very easily... I was hesitant in buying this wax because I had previously bought the golden wax for melts and I had trouble removing it from mold. I think this wax is better than the pillar blend! worth the wait:) scent throw seems to be comparable to pillar blend
Sadly, we're disappointed in this wax. We had to put the molds in freezer to get the wax to release. We're noticing a faint vinegar smell in the raw form that we can detect it in the final product, which seems to clash with any sort of musky or amber base. The entire quantum line seems to be very picky about what FO it plays nice with. We're also not noticing much of a difference between the Q220 and Q230. They feel like the same wax as far as hardness and texture goes. No where near as hard as the ecosoya PB.
I am so disappointed in this wax. It does not unmold easily and the burn time in smaller floating candles is cut by 1/3. The candles do come out glossy just like with PB and the colors are great but it's much harder to work with than PB.